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Alison DiLaurentis
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| | Subject: Pretty Little Liars (no spoiler tags) II Sun Mar 17, 2013 7:33 pm | |
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- "I left a lot of stuff there"
This stuck out to me... mainly because of Alison's tone when she said it. | |
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Alison DiLaurentis
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| | Subject: Re: Pretty Little Liars (no spoiler tags) II Sun Mar 17, 2013 11:52 pm | |
| Troian is going to be on Good Morning America tomorrow. If anyone sees the video, post it ppleaseeee?
She's giving hints i think. | |
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Isa
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| | Subject: Re: Pretty Little Liars (no spoiler tags) II Mon Mar 18, 2013 12:17 am | |
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MissLilly
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| | Subject: Re: Pretty Little Liars (no spoiler tags) II Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:13 pm | |
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Isa
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| | Subject: Re: Pretty Little Liars (no spoiler tags) II Tue Mar 19, 2013 12:59 am | |
| Thanks, Lilly! She is so cute (I'm totally obsessing with her)... but she doesn't say anything important. So excited about the finale!  Maybe I'll wake up earlier tomorrow and watch the episode before I go to work...  I wanted to post a gif I found on tumblr. It's from season 1 with Emily saying "It seems like A has a split personality". Rá! But I can't find it...  | |
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Isa
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| | Subject: Re: Pretty Little Liars (no spoiler tags) II Tue Mar 19, 2013 3:36 am | |
| This is interesting: http://www.tvguide.com/News/Pretty-Little-Liars-Finale-1062897.aspxNot really spoilers, but Janel Parrish talking a bit more about the finale. - Spoiler:
"Someone has been controlling Mona," Parrish says. "This woman appears to be blonde, and a lot of people are speculating it's CeCe (Vanessa Ray), but also keep in mind is that while Mona is taking orders from this person, she was also in a mental hospital! So maybe she doesn't quite know who she was speaking to."
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"The party is where it all goes down and there's definitely a big confrontation," Parrish says. "You'll definitely see some long-lost faces, somebody will be back from the dead and you might see a different side of Mona, something you've never seen before -- fans will know it when they see it."
There is also a photo of a page of the script going around on tumblr. | |
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Isa
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| | Subject: Re: Pretty Little Liars (no spoiler tags) II Tue Mar 19, 2013 5:48 am | |
| Found it!  | |
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Alison DiLaurentis
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| | Subject: Re: Pretty Little Liars (no spoiler tags) II Tue Mar 19, 2013 5:57 am | |
| - Isa wrote:
- This is interesting: http://www.tvguide.com/News/Pretty-Little-Liars-Finale-1062897.aspx
Not really spoilers, but Janel Parrish talking a bit more about the finale.
- Spoiler:
"Someone has been controlling Mona," Parrish says. "This woman appears to be blonde, and a lot of people are speculating it's CeCe (Vanessa Ray), but also keep in mind is that while Mona is taking orders from this person, she was also in a mental hospital! So maybe she doesn't quite know who she was speaking to."
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"The party is where it all goes down and there's definitely a big confrontation," Parrish says. "You'll definitely see some long-lost faces, somebody will be back from the dead and you might see a different side of Mona, something you've never seen before -- fans will know it when they see it."
There is also a photo of a page of the script going around on tumblr. The part you bolded - yeah that kinda tells me - Spoiler:
they're taking orders from Alison, but they don't know it's her and they all think she's dead.
Someone will be back from the dead? Either Ali or Maya
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Alison DiLaurentis
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| | Subject: Re: Pretty Little Liars (no spoiler tags) II Tue Mar 19, 2013 5:57 am | |
| - Isa wrote:
- Found it!
That just says good/evil twin to me. | |
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Alison DiLaurentis
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| | Subject: Re: Pretty Little Liars (no spoiler tags) II Tue Mar 19, 2013 5:59 am | |
| Thanks for the link Lilly..... Short interview!  Like Ali leaving out she had a twin? So what's the plan for watching tomorrow, spoiler tags etc? | |
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Isa
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| | Subject: Re: Pretty Little Liars (no spoiler tags) II Tue Mar 19, 2013 6:27 am | |
| Yeah, remember when I said that - Spoiler:
Mona and Toby were being manipulated and didn't know who was in charge of everything?
Ok, another thing. The finale pays homage to North by Northwest (Hitchcock). The plot: - Quote :
- Roger O. Thornhill is an advertiser who is mistaken with George Kaplan by Phillip and Leonard. They kidnap Roger to learn how much he knows about their operation.
Eve Kendall is a bystander who decides to help Roger. Later Roger finds out that she is collaborating with Phillip and Leonard. Later on another twist: she is actually a double agent working for the US government to get Phillip and Leonard.
George Kaplan is a fictional character created by the US government in a plot to expose Phillip.
Roger is told by the US government about the plot and decides to help Eve (they have fallen in love). Roger and Eve fake an argument, in which Roger is (fake) hurt to convince Phillip that Eve is loyal to him.
Roger learns that Phillip and Leonard found out about the fake argument and plan to kill Eve. Roger goes after her to alert her and they escape climbing Mount Rushmore (famous scene). Phillip and Leonard are caught by the police. So, my thinking, just trying to connect the dots: - Maybe Ali's murder involves a case of mistaken identity - Spencer as the double-agent: She says Mona her plan is to set up the girls at the Hastings' party (in Thornhill) but in reality she plans on exposing the A-team. - The PLLs find out something is wrong and go to Thornhill (the house) to alert Spencer. They help her expose the A-team or show she is loyal to the A-team. - The fictional character is Vivian Darkbloom? - Toby and Spencer are Roger and Eve falling in love | |
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Alison DiLaurentis
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| | Subject: Re: Pretty Little Liars (no spoiler tags) II Tue Mar 19, 2013 6:36 am | |
| Okay guys. A list of things to look out for in the finale (this is a reminder for me haha): - Alison's killer is revealed. - All members of the black-hoodie team. - Who Jenna was speaking to in the park in 2x25. - Who was the QoH? (i wonder if the answer to this is implied, or directly stated... same with who Jenna was talking to...and Ali's killer) - Who is the dead body in the woods. EDIT - Wait, i think Jenna was talking to Mona in the woods. It would fit with the Jenna/Mona finale scene in the rain. Like a parallel. Isn't there a scene where RC and black-hoodie are in a physical fight... in the rain... Does that mean it's Jenna as RC? And Mona in the hoodie (am i making shit up? haha) ----------- Wren and Ezra - ship it  | |
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Isa
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| | Subject: Re: Pretty Little Liars (no spoiler tags) II Tue Mar 19, 2013 6:48 am | |
| Ok, Rosie, just for fun, I'll try and make guesses:
- Alison's killer is revealed. => Ali/twin sister
- All members of the black-hoodie team. => Mona, Toby, Spencer, Wren and Cece
- Who Jenna was speaking to in the park in 2x25. => Ali/twin sister
- Who was the QoH? => Cece
- Who is the dead body in the woods. => Jason
Wild guesses with Cece. I think QoH could be Wren. The only thing that feels really right is the dead body being Jason.
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Alison DiLaurentis
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| | Subject: Re: Pretty Little Liars (no spoiler tags) II Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:07 am | |
| Yeah haha. Jason seems obvious........ I don't see how they can tell us that Alison's killer was her twin though. I think the twin revelation will be season 4.
I'll go QoH as Wren. Remember it was hinted to be a man.
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I'm trying to read that Hitchcock thing, but for some reason I cannot for the life of me make sense of it??
I think i'm tired.
Oh btw, won't be on the forum until after i see the episode tomorrow. | |
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Isa
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| | Subject: Re: Pretty Little Liars (no spoiler tags) II Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:19 am | |
| - Alison DiLaurentis wrote:
- Yeah haha. Jason seems obvious........ I don't see how they can tell us that Alison's killer was her twin though. I think the twin revelation will be season 4.
Yeah, you are right. It seems too much information to be revealed for just one episode when there's a new season coming, btw. So I'm still unsure we will get Ali's killer. Maybe that's how Ali's killer is revealed: there is no Ali's killer because Ali is alive. But then in season 4 we will learn that's not Ali, it's her twin sister. - Quote :
- I'm trying to read that Hitchcock thing, but for some reason I cannot for the life of me make sense of it??
You mean the plot of North by Northwest or the connection with PLL? It's probably more like a themes thing than a matter of the plot being linked. Like the 2B finale, the connection with Psycho were in terms of scenes (the shower scene, the last scene with Mona being crazy) and the whole motel setting. So I'm guessing mistaken identity and double agent are the big keys here. | |
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Isa
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| | Subject: Re: Pretty Little Liars (no spoiler tags) II Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:26 am | |
| - Alison DiLaurentis wrote:
- Oh btw, won't be on the forum until after i see the episode tomorrow.
Oh, I hope everything goes ok tomorrow and after it you have some fun with PLL.  | |
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Alison DiLaurentis
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| | Subject: Re: Pretty Little Liars (no spoiler tags) II Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:50 am | |
| Thank you Isa - Isa wrote:
- Alison DiLaurentis wrote:
- Yeah haha. Jason seems obvious........ I don't see how they can tell us that Alison's killer was her twin though. I think the twin revelation will be season 4.
Yeah, you are right.
It seems too much information to be revealed for just one episode when there's a new season coming, btw. So I'm still unsure we will get Ali's killer. Maybe that's how Ali's killer is revealed: there is no Ali's killer because Ali is alive. But then in season 4 we will learn that's not Ali, it's her twin sister.
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- I'm trying to read that Hitchcock thing, but for some reason I cannot for the life of me make sense of it??
You mean the plot of North by Northwest or the connection with PLL? It's probably more like a themes thing than a matter of the plot being linked. Like the 2B finale, the connection with Psycho were in terms of scenes (the shower scene, the last scene with Mona being crazy) and the whole motel setting. So I'm guessing mistaken identity and double agent are the big keys here. Ha! Plot twist. Mistaken identity like Twin being mistaken for Ali? I see what you mean. ------ Up early tomorrow so must say goodnight! Talk to you tomorrow night hopefully! | |
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Isa
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| | Subject: Re: Pretty Little Liars (no spoiler tags) II Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:23 am | |
| - Alison DiLaurentis wrote:
- Mistaken identity like Twin being mistaken for Ali?
I see what you mean. Yeah, something like that. The big thing about North by Northwest is that the main character is mistaken with someone else by the bad guys who then try to kill the main character thinking he knows too much which is not true, because someone else is actually a plot created by the good guys to get the bad guys. If the writers are trying to pay homage to North by Northwest, I think that is what they would use. To me, this screams Ali/twin sister, Vivian Darkbloom/red coat, A-team. And then on top of it you add the double agent (Spencer, maybe Toby???) who is working with the bad guys to help the good guys. | |
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Isa
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| | Subject: Re: Pretty Little Liars (no spoiler tags) II Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:42 am | |
| Btw, faking an argument could be important too.
Idea:
- Twin sister finds information about Bad guy 1) while she was posing as Ali or 2) while she was at Radley
- Bad guy starts tormenting Ali even though Ali doesn't know information
- Ali creates Vivian Darkbloom to find what is going on
- Bad guy kills twin sister thinking it's Ali who got the information
- Ali goes hiding but keeps trying to help the PLLs find what's going on
- Thinking the PLLs know more about information, Bad guy starts tormenting the PLLs
- Fed up with everything Spencer goes to the dark side to infiltrate the Bad guy's team
- Spencer sets up the PLLs to Mona but she is actually faking it to expose the Bad guy
- The PLLs find out about Spencer being a double agent and go after her in that house to alert her about ???
Question: Why is Mona with the PLLs? | |
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MissLilly
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Location : Norway
| | Subject: Re: Pretty Little Liars (no spoiler tags) II Tue Mar 19, 2013 3:05 pm | |
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- Andy Reaser @AndyReaser
Black lilies, only one death, insects sing, go home and save true love, you'll always live inside. In Mona code: Blood is ghastly Ali.Had to look up ghastly. Wonder which one it means? - Quote :
- ghast·ly (gstl)
adj. ghast·li·er, ghast·li·est
1. Inspiring shock, revulsion, or horror by or as if by suggesting death; terrifying: a ghastly murder.
2. Suggestive of or resembling ghosts.
3. Extremely unpleasant or bad: "in the most abominable passage of his ghastly little book" (Conor Cruise O'Brien).
4. Very serious or great: a ghastly error. | |
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Tuk17
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| | Subject: Re: Pretty Little Liars (no spoiler tags) II Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:05 pm | |
| I can't even with PLL right now. /- I'm not live blogging so don't worry about spoilers.  | |
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Tuk17
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Location : B.C, Canada
| | Subject: Re: Pretty Little Liars (no spoiler tags) II Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:31 pm | |
| SO F-ING PISSED. THERE'S NO AUDIO, ONLY THE BACKGROUND NOISES. | |
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Tuk17
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| | Subject: Re: Pretty Little Liars (no spoiler tags) II Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:55 pm | |
| Sigghhhh. I'll watch it later... Right when it was getting interesting.  | |
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Isa
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| | Subject: Re: Pretty Little Liars (no spoiler tags) II Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:21 am | |
| Just seen the episode! I think some people will be disappointed because we didn't really learn that much, but I think it was a good finale. More thoughts soon! I'll use spoilers tags. | |
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Isa
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| | Subject: Re: Pretty Little Liars (no spoiler tags) II Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:06 am | |
| Ok, first off, this was confusing! I need to rewatch the episode. I think the show is hyping itself too high. It makes sense from the business point of view, but in the end it's a mistake. I did enjoy the finale though. Anyway, my first observations: - Spoiler:
- Shana (!) is the one talking to Jenna in the park. Shana is Queen of Hearts. She is a big girl and had access to the costume, makes sense. - Jenna, Shana and Melissa planned the fire in the Hastings' lodge and they also helped Wilden! - I loved the part where Spencer helped the girls find out she was on the A-team and then the girls used Red Coat to see she was good. Yay, that's the PLLs I want to see. - I was a bit disappointed with Toby being on the A-team just to protect Spencer. It weakens her drama, her journey going to Radley, she saying she had thought of everything and he was no good, etc, but ok, I'm ready to forgive it because they are so good together. And Lana Del Rey's RIDE was playing in the motel! I love that song. - Ezria  I was literally looking away from the computer during their scenes. - Toby and Mona didn't know who Red Coat was!!!! I knew it! I'm not sure we can trust them 100% but I think so. I thought the show would redeem them and make them work with the PLLs, and now voila! - Ali/twin sister is Red Coat... we knew that. Is she good? I want to believe so. If I had to bet, I actually think it is the twin sister alive. But maybe there are two red coats? - I wonder if the Big A was actually involved in anything that happened in the finale except for the car in the end. - I'm super confused about Mona and her relationship with the Big A and Red Coat. She said she was visited by Red Coat at Radley and then she got a partner. Are we to believe she was doing all alone before that? That doesn't make much sense, does it? She told Spencer in the S2 finale they were a team, no? Who texted in the end? Quentions: - Are Jenna, Shana and Melissa part of the A-team? I'm gonna say no, maybe one of them is. My bet is that they think the PLLs are the ones harrassing them because of the videos. The videos contain information about Jenna, Melissa, Wilden, Garret, etc. Why was the black hoodie (Spencer) sending that address to Jenna? Was Jenna supposed to be there in the lodge too? Red Coat (Ali/twin sister) wanted to reveal herself to Jenna as well? Or it was Spencer wanting Jenna to be there because she still thinks Jenna is A? - Who was the black hoodie that locked the girls? Maybe there is someone else using the black hoodie that Mona and Toby don't know of? Who was the girl Toby was following? - What if the body in the car is Ali?
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